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ShittyI would really like to just repeatedly yell out 'its the popular section'. Most people seem to think that it should do some kind of fair exposure thing. Now, fair exposure is great and all, but its not the purpose of the popular section. So why is it there? Your car doesnt wash dishes, and you dont exercise with your TV, so why is art in the popular section that ... isnt? I don't get it. Was it too difficult to make another section for Fair Exposure?
People try to tell me that its more fair. Yes, I know that. But it isnt. See, this site has a history of bashing popular artists. People do it all the time. This site also has a history of bashing anime artists. So if anime is popular, guess what happens? People bash those artists about a million times more. They have essentially designed an algorithm that removes anime and similar things from the frontpage. How is that fair?
People like to say that [insert non anime form here] is art too. Sure. But if it isn't popular, then it doesnt belong in the popular section. Anime is art too. And it IS popular. So why does it get pushed out? They reworked the category system to seperate anime from everything else. Now they rework the popular section to essentially do the same thing. OMGWTFSKITTLES 0.o
Popular art goes in the popular section.
Popular art goes in the popular section.
Popular art goes in the popular section.
Popular art goes in the popular section.
Popular art goes in the popular section.
How does that not make sense? How could any other way of picking art for the popular section be better? If the works that used to be at the top were the most popular, then what is more popular than that? The work that is at the top now is definitely not the most popular, so technically, the system doesnt work.
I WANT MY POPULAR SECTION BACK
Also....is it not ironic that my previous journal was telling people not to get worked up over popularity....and now people are reworking the system because of it?
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Can't help but agree.
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What bugs me is that nobody ever understands the problems on DA, and they all go off on something that isnt really the problem. I hear a bunch of people flaming ramy because they think he doesnt like photography on the front page. Its completely unrelated to this issue, and also untrue. I can't stand when the very people complaining about something dont understand what the problem actually is. Thats why I write journals most of the time.
Now people are going off on what is and isnt art, whether people should be exposed or not, so on. In reality, the only question is the definition of popular. The only possible motive for changing this is removing the stuff that was there(Anime).
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"Life is like playing a violin in public, but learning as time goes on." - SBY
"The ornament of a house is the friend who frequents it." - Emerson
"Love is an irresistible desire to be irresistibly desired." - Frost
I don't believe that, but that's a popular theory.
All the anime is still there. Click the popular button. BAM, still there. Naruto, Death Note, Bleach.
DA doesn't "bash popular deviants" at all. >_> Why would they, when they get money from all of their subscriptions that they, or their fans, buy for them, and three fourths of the money that comes off of each prints sold: and there will be a lot per popular deviant. They roll in the money. Why would dA hate them?
They don't bash Anime, either. If that were true, they wouldn't have a section for it, and it would be against the rules.
Most anime artists flock to SheezyART. Most popular deviants pout they are being bashed, because most of dA's contests are to expose photography and prose which is two of the most unnoticed sections in the site. Anime is a HUGE section, so there's no need to have contests to expose it. Once the fad dies a lot, they'll be holding contests or exposing it. That's how dA has always been.
Also, the section for anime was an act of segregation that a lot of people were very unhappy about. I'd love to just shout a million times that the purpose of the popular section is not exposure. Its great to expose people, but that would be somethign for an exposure section. The popular section is for popular works. It still doesn't expose anyone with the new system anyway. It shows more categories, but only somewhat popular work from them. It makes it harder for some artists(digital, anime, drawing) to get exposed because their categories are weighted out.
Its never fair to cater to a subset of the population. Sure they are less known. Its much more difficult to take good, meaningful photography than to draw something. And it seems that everyone and their cousin thinks that they can be a poet these days. These categories also don't get a lot of exposure because they are difficult categories to be really good in. I don't want to see all the crap they have just because there is less quality work.
But it is how it is now. Congratulations to the whiners, cause the popular section will be permanently ruined. I can't find good art anymore now, without showing prejudice against categories that I otherwise used to include. Nice work on that one everybody.
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"Life is like playing a violin in public, but learning as time goes on." - SBY
"The ornament of a house is the friend who frequents it." - Emerson
"Love is an irresistible desire to be irresistibly desired." - Frost
Not everyone wants to see half-assed Naruto and Death Note. Not everyone comes on here for anime. Not everyone likes the Popular section. Hell, most people hated the old section, and they hate the new section. No one will be happy if they split them up, either. Why? Because then people will bitch about their computers going slow from the FairExposure section. You can't make everyone happy.
Anime and manga have taken over a site that used to be full of other good things, not saying anime is bad ('cause, I mean, I draw the style, hate most anime, though) but it used to be part anime, part other sections. Get off your high horse. There is no segregation between anime and other sections. That's in your head, because apparently, to you it seems, anime is the only good thing on this site. Which isn't true.
Your argument is like me bitching about how it's not fair that I'm forced to use my Wii and can't use the laptop. Pointless, and it isn't going to change. You're one person, Ramy is, Kris-Wilson is, too. Doesn't matter how many popular deviants team up, it's not going to change because some stuck-up people who still want the front page are bitching about their place being stolen. Done deal.
Anime and manga do not force out other styles. The artists in those styles are responsible for their work. If they don't produce at the level of quality or quantity as other artists, it is silly to blame the other artists for that.
I notice quite a bit that the "populars" who "only get popular because of their fanart" also happen to be drawing at a level of quality above many other artists. Once again, it sounds like pure jealousy that someone else is good enough to draw something at a level of quality that gets attention. I thought this site was about art, yet all I hear from the other side here is whining about people who are more popular and whining that they don't have exposure and whining about every little thing. All I want is the old popular section to browse. And not just for anime. I never said anime was the only good thing here.
Go ahead and browse my favorites. Tell me how much fanart you see. Almost half the artists I watch were found going through the popular section for something new and interesting. That is, when it worked like it used to. Now, most of what you see may be digital. Thats because most people putting out quality use digital these days. That doesn't mean that I don't like anything else. I watch any artist that puts out work like that, even if it happens to be traditional or photography or whatever.
So I'm not any of the people that you seem to think make up the crowd that want the old way back, and yet I want the old way back.
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"Life is like playing a violin in public, but learning as time goes on." - SBY
"The ornament of a house is the friend who frequents it." - Emerson
"Love is an irresistible desire to be irresistibly desired." - Frost
Anime and manga needed its own section, because it had grown in such a size. People, who were new, were having trouble finding the section, putting anime/manga styled art in categories like '
So have cartoons, comics and many other kinds of art.
As popularity of certain categories grow, they HAVE to put it apart, or people make mistakes about wrong sections. Fanart is fine, but people shouldn't whine about it being behind some now. That's what I have been seeing.
I'm using 'you' loosely here, but dA can't make you happy, they can't make the population happy, and they just might piss me off one day. As for now, get used to the system. They might change it.
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You lost the game. :]
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"Life is like playing a violin in public, but learning as time goes on." - SBY
"The ornament of a house is the friend who frequents it." - Emerson
"Love is an irresistible desire to be irresistibly desired." - Frost
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